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Eric
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« on: December 24, 2005, 04:57:51 AM »

Is it planned to implement true gapless playback in amaroK (using the LAME-headers of LAME-encoded files)? That would make me very happy.
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Mark Kretschmann
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2005, 05:09:13 AM »

Heh, you\'re lucky: It has been implemented just yesterday. With amaroK 1.4 and xine 1.1.1, you\'ll get true gapless playback now.
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Eric
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2005, 07:31:19 AM »

Thankyou so much, I am very grateful for that. I already have xine-lib 1.1.1 installed, any idea when amaroK 1.4 will be released? I am running Arch Linux, and bleeding edge as it is, it hopefully won\'t take long before it is available in the repositories.

Again, thankyou for the gaplessness :cheer:
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2005, 09:18:56 PM »

1.4 is a ways off

You can use svn if you want thouhg :)  http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/AmaroK-svn
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Mike Arthur
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2005, 09:48:06 PM »

Fraid its still not true gapless, theres still a slight gap.
Tested on foobar and my Rockboxed iRiver, neither of which do crossfading, and both read the LAME headers, and they both have no gaps, and the current Amarok SVN definately does.

And yes, I have Xine 1.1.1 installed.

It\'s better than before, but still needs a wee bit of work.
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Mike Arthur
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2005, 09:54:51 PM »

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Fraid its still not true gapless, theres still a slight gap.
Tested on foobar and my Rockboxed iRiver, neither of which do crossfading, and both read the LAME headers, and they both have no gaps, and the current Amarok SVN definately does.

And yes, I have Xine 1.1.1 installed.

It\'s better than before, but still needs a wee bit of work.


I lied!
Fiddled with my asoundrc and it works perfectly. Well done fellas, this is the one feature I\'ve been wanting for AGES!!
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Bill Gates
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2006, 01:56:51 PM »

What exactly did you change?
I\'m also using amarok-svn (january 10th, 2006) and I also have xine-1.1.1. I\'ve tried to \'fiddle\' around with my /etc/asound.conf but I don\'t hear any differences, there still a short gap between tracks.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2006, 03:04:02 PM »

Bill Gates wrote:
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What exactly did you change?
I\'m also using amarok-svn (january 10th, 2006) and I also have xine-1.1.1. I\'ve tried to \'fiddle\' around with my /etc/asound.conf but I don\'t hear any differences, there still a short gap between tracks.


ditto. still a short gap.
I didn\'t actually try to \"fiddle\" with my ~/.asoundrc, as I have no clue about what to do...
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2006, 03:06:36 PM »

Gapless playback can never work 100% with MP3 files, due to the padding in the last frame. It does however work perfectly with OGG and FLAC files.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2006, 04:06:01 PM »

Well, I have one album encoded in FLAC, and it is 100% perfect on some tracks but on others you can still hear a clicking sound. Well, I guess it\'s track-dependant.
The funny thing is that with XMMS you can achieve, lets say a 99% gapless playback (most of the time, if you do hear a click, it\'s really slight).
Well, I guess from this point on it becomes sort of niggling. If you can make it any better, great. If not, well it\'s ok too. all in all, amaroK is a great player :)
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 05:01:09 AM »

Could it help to introduce a very short crossfading from track to track, let\'s say 250-500ms (how long can the mp3 padding be?). By this, it should not really cut of the end (at least you should not realize it) and remove any gap.
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Harald
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2006, 04:15:43 AM »

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Gapless playback can never work 100% with MP3 files

It can be perfect, if the files are encoded by LAME. I am under the impression that amaroK will now support reading of the LAME-headers, and thus get true gapless playback. Did i misunderstand? Ogg Vorbis and FLAC are gapless formats, so they should always be perfect.
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