Sunday, March 8. 2009About "Good Music" - Part 1: Progressive Rock![]() (Image copyright by denis_m) Hey all, so this is of course a very controversial topic, as music is art, and as with all things art: Tastes differ. Still, as a long time music player developer, I get to hear a lot of music (basically all day), and I also happen to take music quite seriously. However, I should note that I am myself not a musician. Anyway, since I might be somewhat knowledgeable in this field, and as I have been asked to write about this, I will write about my personal music taste. Some recommendations on what I find "good" music My music taste can be coarsely split into three broad categories: 1) Progressive rock 2) Electronica 3) Classical music As a teenager, when I first started to listen to music seriously, one my first loves has been Queen (rock music), and Mike Oldfield (complex symphonic rock). I should note one aspect of my music taste that might be a bit special: I do not tend to neglect or dislike artists that I have once loved (hey, the same is true for relationships!). I rarely say "OK, I might have liked this band 10 years ago, but now I just find them a joke!". Instead, I tend to stick to the artists I liked. E.g. I am still a big fan of Queen and Mike Oldfield today. So the first of my beloved music categories would be progressive rock, also called symphonic rock, because of its similarities in structure with classical music. To this day, I love this genre. Here are a few listening tips: Mike Oldfield Oldfield is probably my favorite musician and composer overall. I know most of his works, named an application in honor of him ("Amarok"), and I admire this man. I personally believe him to be one the greatest musical geniuses of our time (a modern Bach, so to speak). Mike Oldfield covers a wide range of musical genres, from progressive rock to classical, to pop. He's a virtuoso guitar player, but also a multi-instrumentalist (plays something like 15 instruments by himself). I can only strongly recommend to check out his music. And don't just stop at one album - his musical range is too wide to judge him by one album alone. Genesis One of the founders of progressive rock, this band started out with Peter Gabriel as their singer, a part which was later on taken over by Phil Collins (also a drummer). This is a band that has been active for bloody ages (like from the late 60s or so), and is still semi-active today (nowadays just 3 people though). They are a must listen for every fan of the genre. Porcupine Tree Although they don't like to be stuck into this genre (they find it old fashioned), this band represents a modern form of progressive rock, with masterful composition and extremely good musicianship. The mastermind behind the band is front man Steve Wilson, who also happens to run many other musical side projects. PS: One Amarok developer, Nikolaj Hald Nielsen, is a major fan of this band. If you are interested in them, talk to him sometime Some more bands of this genre that I highly appreciate are: Marillion, IQ, Fish, Magenta (Welsh band), Pendragon. So I've just realized that this blog has already become quite long (personally I hate reading long blogs - thanks ADHD!), so I've decided to split it up, and to write articles about the other important genres another time. But I can already tell you so much: Electronica (electronic music) has become very important to me, and is currently probably the genre I listen to most often. So long, and thanks for reading Trackbacks
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Just whant to say thanks that because of Amarok (and small extend "The Songs Of Distant Earth") i have discovered Mike Oldfield
Thanks, that's nice to hear
You might want to try some other groups, just in case:
- Opeth - Dream Theater (Images and words, Scenes from a memory, or perhaps 6 stages of inner turbulence). - Ayreon (better start with "The human equation"). - Yes (of course) - Rush (but mostly their 80's records) - Tool (Lateralus in particular). Although I don't like Mike Oldfield that much
Cheers, I know most of the bands you mentioned, and some I also like a lot.
But generally these bands are more in the direction of "symphonic metal" than rock. It's more hardcore, especially Opeth. With Dream Theater specifically I have one problem: Excellent musicians, bad songwriting (and horrible singer)
Yes, I have heard of them (and I know a few songs), but so far they failed to impress me much.
I know that many see their album "OK Computer" as a revolution, but I find it a bit overrated. Maybe I should listen to it again.
Porcupine Tree is also one of my favorite band.
Here are some bands you might also like: 1. Dredg 2. Rpwl 3. The butterfly effect (espacially the last albun : Final conversation of kings) 4. The mars volta (quite different but awesone in their genre)
You're missing the allmighty King Crimson, Emerson, Lake & Palmer and obviously Pink Floyd! Someone mentioned Dredg, The Mars Volta and Tool. He's right, great stuff. All of these are emotionally deep and sometimes quite tripped out!
Meshuggah is also a great band, something like progressive psychedelic thrash metal. I like to call it zen metal. Some great progressive Krautrock bands: Amon Düül II, Erlkönig, Kin Ping Meh, Yezda Urfa. My feelings about some of the mentioned bands, especially in the comments: Dream Theater and Ayreon are quite good on a technical point of view, but they are lacking the emotions.
Yeah, Pink Floyd is of course awesome. About 5 minutes after finishing the article I noticed that I forgot listing them
Oh well, shit happens.
Though the really underground band Yezda Urfa can't really qualify as Krautrock, being American and all. Another American artist that deserves a (really big) mention here is of course Zappa.
Oh and btw, Progressive Rock deserves every special mention it gets, so far being the highest point reached by popular (rock-)music. All you proggers out there, wishing it was 1973 again, check out www.progarchives.com to rediscover some nice music!
Someone already mentioned Ayreon.. But there is also Stream of Passion
Oh well, probably thousands more good bands out there
There's something you definitely must try : Magma.
Fun fact, Oldfield assisted to a rehearsal of Magma just before writing Tubular Bells. It seems its main theme (of TB) was inspired by what he heard there, so much that when Christian Vander (the leader of Magma) heard TB while watching The Exorcist he went furious at hearing his tune and destroyed the part of MDK that contained this part. Anyway, fact or not, you definitely should listen Magma. As for where to start... I'd say anywhere except for "Merci". Probably a live such as Haai (sometimes just refered at as Live) would be a good introduction. You'll find almost everything Magmaish on eMusic http://www.emusic.com/artist/Magma-MP3-Download/11777412.html My personal favorite (well ok, one of thereof) is the live BBC 1974. Or Retrospektiw I-II. Or the very recent Epoch. Or... And if you ever come to France someday and have a chance to see them live (yeah, after 40 years of music !) you'll be in for a life changing event (was for me...) Really, do try it ! And keep me informed, I'd be interested in your feedback
Haha, that's funny, I love Oldfield's music, and when I knew about this app, I said, "oh, like the Mike Oldfield album".
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Yay for prog lovers! I too am a fellow KDE prog head and have albums by all three artists you named (with Genesis probably being my favourite).
Other progressive rock you might want to check out: Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, OSI, Yes. If you have checked them out already, let me know what you think!
OSI (DT side project) is a lot better than Dream Theater. But I prefer Liquid Tension Experiment (3 people from DT and Tony Levin)!
Big fan of Mike Oldfield here too
I would like to add that, more apart from being an excellent musician, Mike is one of the greatest producers in the music industry. His records are perfect and flawless!!
+1 on Porcupine Tree
you should check out Ash Ra Tempel and their later incarnation, Ashra. And their lead musician, Manuel Gottsching.
King Crimson, no question about it, especially any incarnation with Adrian Belew. Also agree with Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Tool, Radiohead, Meshuggah, and Amon Düül II.
For some really good Krautrock, I would also recommend Can and Faust.
Oh my god, I missed to name Can. I love Can - they're far out! And Adrian Belews solo albums are great, too. I've still gotta check out Faust.
Hey, it's great to hear that at least 2 Amarok developers like Porcupine Tree
... if you like Prog_Rock add Stellar Attraction - Progressive Rock Internet Radio to your Amarok InternetRadio list:
http://s1.viastreaming.net:7170/listen.pls Stellar Attraction plays almost all the groups mentioned above. Enjoy
Found this thread looking for some new and interesting Prog rock to listen to. I adore Tool, porcupine tree, Opeth & King Crimson, (among others) Found some bands I haven't heard of before here, going to do some downloading
Thanks guys!
On the nagging of a friend I listened to 'Amnesiac' by Radiohead, and I have grown to love it. Along with 'Kid A' it is apparently atypical to their other output, but I've never got around to those other albums.
If you do get into these two albums, around 2001 they did a performance on French TV of a selection of songs from both, and some are re-arranged dramatically for their live versions. I was impressed. I think the show is available on DVD or YouTube.
If you like Tool, you may like Perfect Circle too. And some Nine Inch Nails and Jane's Addiction.
I try to ignore labels and listen to what I like, and discover new stuff too. I like a LOT of Radiohead when I'm in the mood.
An awesome prog band that many dismiss as a psychedelic band is Ozric Tentacles. Their musicianship is great and their songwriting can be quite complex and interesting, especially their album Waterfall Cities.
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