Saturday, May 31. 2008
Sometimes Im really fed up with..
..those "Neinsagers" who permanently complain about KDE4. That's what I wrote today on the Kubuntu mailing list, after a recurrent complaint about KDE4:
Well, the last sentence is a bit bold as I have no insight in the current Gnome development, and I would not be astonished if they were on the same ways for coming releases. Please correct me if my statements are false or incorrect...
Don't compare apples with pears, please!
KDE4 is still in heavy development, and it never has been announced to be finished yet, so please give the developers time to polish that!
Don't forget that, as with Firefox 3, there was a choice to be made to be included in the LTS and other upcoming releases of distributions
like OpenSuSE etc. and to be able to upgrade in the standard package sources.
If you can't run KDE4 decently then you must have a problem with your installation that usually is sorted out with a clean install (one
mayor reason why /home should be on a separate partition BTW). I run KDE4 since before KDE 4.0.3. on my very old Acer laptop (like 3+
years) and can use close to every app I need.
Also, there is a change in the way computers will work in the future and how GUIs are designed, based on intense usability research, a
change you can see the beginning of in KDE4. What do you expect, that developers stay behind mayor evolution in desktop design? Of course
there will always be those who don't like changes, and nobody forces you to use KDE 4, KDE 3.5.9 is still around and will be around for
quite some time, so make your mind up and try to understand what the computers of the 21st century will look like or stay put with the "old
way".
And if you read a little info coming from the developers, be this on kde.org or planetkde.org, you might eventually change your mind and
understand why KDE 4 is at the current state. Gnome is not near in ages to that GUI changes we need to do to catch up with the modern
world
Well, the last sentence is a bit bold as I have no insight in the current Gnome development, and I would not be astonished if they were on the same ways for coming releases. Please correct me if my statements are false or incorrect...
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To play devil's advocate here:
"KDE4 is still in heavy development, and it never has been announced to be finished yet,"
...then why has a 4.0 final been released? Many people still expect a product to be finished when an x.0 final is released. Also,
"Don't forget that, as with Firefox 3,"
FF3 is still technically beta (RC1 right now), while KDE 4.0 has been out for a while and 4.1 is being publicly worked on.
You have to expect some backlash if expectations are raised and then dashed like this...
"KDE4 is still in heavy development, and it never has been announced to be finished yet,"
...then why has a 4.0 final been released? Many people still expect a product to be finished when an x.0 final is released. Also,
"Don't forget that, as with Firefox 3,"
FF3 is still technically beta (RC1 right now), while KDE 4.0 has been out for a while and 4.1 is being publicly worked on.
You have to expect some backlash if expectations are raised and then dashed like this...
hm, where did you read that 4.0 was a final release? If I scan through the release announcement(http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/), it only states that "this is the beginning of the KDE 4 era". Who ever said that a "cutting edge" release was final? Don't read things into it that are not said 
Howabout the kde homepage. At
http://kde.org/info/releases.php 4.0.4 is referred to as the stable version of KDE, with no known major bugs.
The KDE community is sending out a very mixed message about the state of KDE 4.0, and as long as it does, people will bitch and moan about it.
http://kde.org/info/releases.php 4.0.4 is referred to as the stable version of KDE, with no known major bugs.
The KDE community is sending out a very mixed message about the state of KDE 4.0, and as long as it does, people will bitch and moan about it.
I just downloaded the KDE 4 version of Kubuntu 8.04 in error, so I installed it and am typing this from within it.
My very first impressions:
"You can have any color you want, as long as it is black."
We've come a long way, only to find ourselves right back in 1914 with Henry Ford telling his customers how they should like their car.
Big hint to the KDE folks ... make it easy, don't make it impossible.
My very first impressions:
"You can have any color you want, as long as it is black."
We've come a long way, only to find ourselves right back in 1914 with Henry Ford telling his customers how they should like their car.
Big hint to the KDE folks ... make it easy, don't make it impossible.
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